For the Last Time, Evolution IS NOT SCIENTIFIC!!!!!

I came across a post, in one of the forums on MySpace, which insists that evolution is scientific and creationism is myth. Below is the post:


Posted: May 14, 2006 6:36 PM

The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see starts that were more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star were further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.

The above assertions made me fume enough to write a rebuttal. Below is my rebuttal:

To the person who wrote the initial post,

I'd like to address your initial post, scientifically, point by point.

1. Your Point:
   

   
   The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real.
   

   
   Rebuttal:
   

   
   Scientifically speaking, it takes more faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in creationism. First, the theory of evolution violates the 2nd Law of thermodynamics (the law of entropy) which says, disorder always goes up, i.e., energy/matter dissipates, systems breaks down. Evolution requires the opposite; it requires energy and matter to become concentrated and the systems to become more complex.
   

   
   Many people, who believe in evolution, don't understand how complex a single cell is; they simply had the faith that some how all the required chemicals come together to become the first cell.
   

   
   Let me describe for you the components of a cell:
   

   
   
   • Cell membrane/wall - a complex external membrane which can be controlled to let water in and out depending on temperature, salinity, and nutritional needs. It can also be controlled to attach itself and detach it self to/from certain shaped molecules. And it can enfold itself around an external object to "gobble" it up.
     
   
   
   • Cell nucleus - composed of a complex membrane within which the DNA resides. This membrane can be regulated to let RNA in and out. Inside, the DNA combines RNA fragments to send chemical signals (in the form of RNA combination) to the ribosome which creates proteins to regulate cell metabolism. During mitosis, both the DNA and membrane around the cell nucleus replicates while regulating the cell to divide.
     
   
   
   • Ribosome - It takes RNA combinations and produce proteins to regulate cell metabolism.
     
   
   
   • Mitochondria - It's the power station in the cell. It also has its own DNA which infers that it does a lot more than provide the cell with power conversion.
     
   
   
   • Endoplasmic Reticulum
     
   
   
   • Lysosome
     
   
   
   • Golgi Body
     
   
   
   
   

   
   Any one who actually believes that all this complexity can spontaneously appear (whether slowly or quickly) by simply stirring the primordial soup has A LOT OF FAITH in the theory of a naturalist (not a scientist since he does not apply the scientific method).
   

   
   If anything, scientific evidence points towards creationism. The Big Bang Theory, which is no longer a theory but is a scientific fact, points towards creationism. Originally there were two ways to model the Big Bang: 1) the single bang model 2) the cyclic bang, expand, collapse, and bang again model. The latter was put out by those who want to eliminate a creator from the system.
   

   
   In order for the cyclic model to work, there must be sufficient mass in the universe to generate enough gravity to start the collapsing process. So scientists were in a search for "missing" mass that can collapse the universe. Unfortunately, "missing" mass were hard to come by. In fact, as the universe continues to expand, it requires even more mass to collapse the universe. Several years ago, it was concluded that not only is the expansion of the universe not slowing down, it is actually accelerating. This discovery dashed any hope for the cyclic model of the big bang.
   

   
   This leaves only one option: the single bang model which requires an external entity to create the big bang.
   
   
   

2. Your Point:
   

   
   Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.
   

   
   Rebuttal:
   

   
   The dating method used to come up with millions of year is based on radioactive decay of a base element, e.g. carbon 13. It assumes that that amount of the base element in living organisms long ago is the same as the amount that is there today. By taking a reading of the amount of the base element in the found item and extrapolating the decay, it comes up with the time duration of the decay. The problem is with the initial assumption: that amount of the base element in living organisms long ago is the same as the amount that is there today. We know this assumption is not true since the amount of radiation long ago is much less than we have today since there was a breakdown of the protective cover over the earth. Radioactive decay dating is a flawed method.
   

   
   

3. Your Point:
   

   
   Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.
   

   
   Rebuttal:
   

   
   I think I've given sufficient argument to dispel your assertion that "modern technology has proved the Bible wrong"
   
   

4. Your Point:
   

   
   Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet.
   

   
   Rebuttal:
   

   
   If you read the description of the creation in Genesis, you will find that the order of all the things being created is consistent with that of the current scientific finding. The fact that (as you pointed out) "the authors with limited knowledge of the nature of the universe" are able to describe current scientific finding proves that there must be a higher power feeding them the information.
   
   

5. Your Point:
   

   
   We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
   

   
   Rebuttal:
   

   
   The Big Bang points to a creator outside of our universe (the entity who started the Big Gang). No one has been there.